Go Back   Home Owners Forum > Home Discussion Forums > Gardening Forum
Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-05-2007, 02:53 AM   #1
Bienvenue
 
Default Lawnmover problem

Why it started and stopped after a few minutes?

I replaced a lot of things and it still not functioning, new blade, new
spark plug, new air filter, new oil, new gasoline.

This is a Sear's Craftman Self-propelled machine, bout 3-4 years ago. It
was running really well, just dies this week. Lots of smoke coming out,
something is wrong with it. Before I didn't see this much smokes like oil
is not being burn completely.

Thanks for your suggestion.


  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 02:53 AM   #2
AndyS
 
Default Re: Lawnmover problem


Bienvenue wrote:
> Why it started and stopped after a few minutes?
>
> I replaced a lot of things and it still not functioning, new blade, new
> spark plug, new air filter, new oil, new gasoline.
>
> This is a Sear's Craftman Self-propelled machine, bout 3-4 years ago. It
> was running really well, just dies this week. Lots of smoke coming out,
> something is wrong with it. Before I didn't see this much smokes like oil
> is not being burn completely.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.


Andy writes:
My guess is a broken piston ring.... If you do a compression check
it should be at least 60 psi. If it is not, squirt some oil into the
cylinder
and pull it thru a couple times to distribute it... Then do another
compression
test.... If it improves a lot, it is rings. If it doesn't it is
valves.....

Of course, it may not be this at all ---- just something easy to
try..

Andy in Eureka

  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 02:53 AM   #3
Art
 
Default Re: Lawnmover problem

Bienvenue wrote:
> Why it started and stopped after a few minutes?
>
> I replaced a lot of things and it still not functioning, new blade, new
> spark plug, new air filter, new oil, new gasoline.
>
> This is a Sear's Craftman Self-propelled machine, bout 3-4 years ago. It
> was running really well, just dies this week. Lots of smoke coming out,
> something is wrong with it. Before I didn't see this much smokes like oil
> is not being burn completely.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
>
>


Did you replace those things before or after it stopped?
When you replaced the blade did you tip it over or on it's side? You
should always tip the machine so the spark plug is up.
Will it run at all now?

--
Art
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 02:53 AM   #4
Art
 
Default Re: Lawnmover problem

AndyS wrote:
> Bienvenue wrote:
>
>>Why it started and stopped after a few minutes?
>>
>>I replaced a lot of things and it still not functioning, new blade, new
>>spark plug, new air filter, new oil, new gasoline.
>>
>>This is a Sear's Craftman Self-propelled machine, bout 3-4 years ago. It
>>was running really well, just dies this week. Lots of smoke coming out,
>>something is wrong with it. Before I didn't see this much smokes like oil
>>is not being burn completely.
>>
>>Thanks for your suggestion.

>
>
> Andy writes:
> My guess is a broken piston ring.... If you do a compression check
> it should be at least 60 psi. If it is not, squirt some oil into the
> cylinder
> and pull it thru a couple times to distribute it... Then do another
> compression
> test.... If it improves a lot, it is rings. If it doesn't it is
> valves.....
>
> Of course, it may not be this at all ---- just something easy to
> try..
>
> Andy in Eureka
>


It's likely the smoke is just oil burning from when he tipped the
"Lawnmover" and replaced the blade.

--
Art
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 02:53 AM   #5
Bienvenue
 
Default Re: Lawnmover problem


"Art" <Artemis@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message
news:_djTg.1052$2g4.369@dukeread09...
> Bienvenue wrote:
>> Why it started and stopped after a few minutes?
>>
>> I replaced a lot of things and it still not functioning, new blade, new
>> spark plug, new air filter, new oil, new gasoline.
>>
>> This is a Sear's Craftman Self-propelled machine, bout 3-4 years ago. It
>> was running really well, just dies this week. Lots of smoke coming out,
>> something is wrong with it. Before I didn't see this much smokes like
>> oil is not being burn completely.
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>
>>

>
> Did you replace those things before or after it stopped?
> When you replaced the blade did you tip it over or on it's side? You
> should always tip the machine so the spark plug is up.
> Will it run at all now?
>
> --
> Art


Thanks folks for your reply.

My machine never complained about being tipped over. My lawn is not quite
leveled, it never complained for 4 years.

4 months ago, I replaced a lot of things, things was working so well. Last
two weeks after using it, I released the handle to stop the engine, I saw a
lot of white smoke came off, I thought nothing big to be concerned about.
Two weeks later, I tried using it and it never continues to run, it starts
and runs only a few seconds, with lots of white smoke then it stopped by
itself.

It does look like there is oil in the combustion chamber, because when I
removed the spark plug to check what's going on, I saw oil filled the tip of
the spark plug.

Why the flood of motor oil happened now and not 3-4 months ago ?

It beats me concerning the timing of this incident. It makes no sense.









  Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 02:53 AM   #6
Ken Weitzel
 
Default Re: Lawnmover problem

Bienvenue wrote:
> "Art" <Artemis@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message
> news:_djTg.1052$2g4.369@dukeread09...
>> Bienvenue wrote:
>>> Why it started and stopped after a few minutes?
>>>
>>> I replaced a lot of things and it still not functioning, new blade, new
>>> spark plug, new air filter, new oil, new gasoline.
>>>
>>> This is a Sear's Craftman Self-propelled machine, bout 3-4 years ago. It
>>> was running really well, just dies this week. Lots of smoke coming out,
>>> something is wrong with it. Before I didn't see this much smokes like
>>> oil is not being burn completely.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>>
>>>

>> Did you replace those things before or after it stopped?
>> When you replaced the blade did you tip it over or on it's side? You
>> should always tip the machine so the spark plug is up.
>> Will it run at all now?
>>
>> --
>> Art

>
> Thanks folks for your reply.
>
> My machine never complained about being tipped over. My lawn is not quite
> leveled, it never complained for 4 years.
>
> 4 months ago, I replaced a lot of things, things was working so well. Last
> two weeks after using it, I released the handle to stop the engine, I saw a
> lot of white smoke came off, I thought nothing big to be concerned about.
> Two weeks later, I tried using it and it never continues to run, it starts
> and runs only a few seconds, with lots of white smoke then it stopped by
> itself.
>
> It does look like there is oil in the combustion chamber, because when I
> removed the spark plug to check what's going on, I saw oil filled the tip of
> the spark plug.
>
> Why the flood of motor oil happened now and not 3-4 months ago ?
>
> It beats me concerning the timing of this incident. It makes no sense.


Hi...

I can't help but wonder about the "white" smoke... oil doesn't
burn white!

Is it worthwhile thinking that perhaps you've somehow got a
bunch of water in your gas? Perhaps from the machine (or your
container) left open out in the rain? Or sprinkler?

Perhaps the machine sits for a few days; the water separates,
the machine starts easily. Then running, it shakes and mixes
the water and gas, which burns (steams) for a while until it
eventually shuts the machine down?

For what little it costs, why not empty the machine, put in a
fresh tank of brand new gas, add a wee bit of methyl hydrate,
and see what happens?

Just a thought...

Take care.

Ken
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools

 


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
privacy policy